Wendy's totally repugnant advertisement

[Pat Volk]

This ad is the most ridiculous and asinine ad ever.This joker says that he is a meatarian and it is"his personal choice" and he is committed to it.This is a slap in the face for vegetarains such as myself whose vegetarianism is a immutable lifestlye and center of my life. for me it is a personal committment and I have been practicing it for over 20 years. (I am 80 years old).This joker shoud be made to watch the video and or visit a slaughterhouse,(Howard Lyman said that if you ever have a chance to visit a slaughterhouse, don't.

[Emily]

Thank you bams!

[Lani]

Bams I know you are a good person...no matter what you put in your body. I guess freedom of choice and freedom of speech only apply if your opinions match those of everyone around you...I am a bit lost to when this happened but it is obvious that it has. I suppose I'm an evil animal abuser too even though all the hard work I've put into animal rescue, the donations I've made to Defenders of Wildlife, ASPCA, HSUS, and the list could go on...but all that is overshadowed by the fact I eat meat.

[Pat Volk]

You do not directly abuse the food animals. but it is rather ambivalent to be so kind and caring toward SOME animals but not to this who taste good.do they not bleed?do they not suffer?I will never understand this deeply held prejuduce against food anmals.Can you explain>some places they eat dogs ,

[Lani]

There are also countries that eat horses, and cats, and pigeons! How do you know that these animals don't taste good? I sure don't know. But yes other countries eat this way. May it be because of Mad Cow spreading like a rampant wild fire over europe shoving them into alternative protien sources. May it be because there isn't enough land space in Japan/Korea/etc to raise cattle for food and the risk of eating fish all the time is Scurvy. Is it right? Is it wrong? Who are we to say what people of other nations, other beliefs, other cultures, and other religions do or don't put in their bellies? It's just different than what we percieve as normal...The best example of perceptions differing would be the Indians who lived in Tee-pees and worshiped non-chirstian gods and lived off the land and were one with nature...then the "white man" came and saw this as not normal so they destroyed (litterally DESTROYED) a complete culture! It's the same narrow mindedness that makes people say they are better than others due to the foods they choose to eat or not eat.

[Pat Volk]

I am not better than. I have just gone beyond the prejudice agsinst food animals.They too suffer-this is not debatable. It is not a question of being bad, just uninformed. Unelightened.We ares o cused to eating"meat" that no one questions it.some will when they learn of the horrors of factory farming.Others will not.Most do not want to know or havn't the slighest idea (remeber cosmetic research? fur industry, dog labs?0

[Lani]

And again WHO ARE WE to say who is or isn't "enlightened" by Who's standards? Let's just go ahead and keep destroying all individuality, all cultural bases, all religious factions until everyone is the same lemming with no point of view of their own just nice clean uniformity.

You go ahead and not eat meat and the rest of us that are debating will continue to eat meat and agree to disagree...I will give you that corporate farming/slaughtering has gotten out of hand...I know because unlike some who have only seen it on YouTube or other internet hosts and said "oh-no!" I've seen it...and once again I do not approve of corporate farming standards (or lack there of).

Oh and the old saying-you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar stands...you want to sway people to your point of view it may be best not to call them crazy bible thumpers...once again showing how "open minded" you are as well. Pot calls the kettle what?

[Pat Volk]

I do not believe they were my words. Vegetarianism is a very liberated individual choice.The End.I will not reply to any more of these messages. At my age (80) i have a limited amount of energy. I only know that food animals suffer (tha t is not an opinion) and as one who cares deeply do not want to participate in that suffering. You all continue to call it meat if that makesyou feel better.
Do not put word into my mouth.The END

[bams481]

you and Mutleyman should partner up. When you die, he will have food for his dog for a while.

[Lani]

But by running rampant and forcing a belief onto a mass population, thus destroying thier beliefs (causing the loss of individuality) may be liberating to the liberators...but perhaps not so liberating to the "liberated" No matter what the topic is. I can think of more than a few examples of such throughout history...Like I said by who's standards is any one person "enlightened" or "unenlightened"? Its a differing of views but that doesn't necessarily mean one is more right than the other...

[Pat Volk]

no one is "forcing: anyone to do anything. and if your beliefs can be changed they were not deeply ingrained. You all protest so much.it is really simple.If you do not wish to inflict pain and suffering, change, if this is not somthing that grabs you contnue to eat "meat:. it is really that simple. However, it does make a difference whether or not you have the facts .Unless one at least looks at the suffering it is all moot.Only you can change your beliefs.to think otherwise is to believe in brain washing. I nor anyone else cannot change your belifes. Only you can do that.so please don't accuse others of changing your beliefs. One changes by learning, then thinking, then making decisions. It was two years before I made the choice, NO ONE chANGED MY beliefs.That is impossible.Nor am I 'running rampant" where do you come up with these words. My life is based on "Ahimsa"
The world will become vegetarian, by default.and what is "right" what is wrong: what is evil.what is suffering.Causing pain is always wrong, is it not?Or can it be right in the case of factory farming, i assure you, no one is trying or can change your beliefs. Only you can do that.

[Pat Volk]

I DID NOT STATE THIS FOR APPROVAL, Rather to illustrate that in some countries it is okay to eat beings whom we hold dear. it is the value we place on them-whwtehr to love them or to eat them according ot our taste and beliefs.

[bams481]

Right and our beliefs is to eat them, so get over it